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Kontext Impact on Turn Latency
Analysis of whether embeddings layer would speed up or slow down end-to-end kontask turns
Output
Would Kontext Speed Up Kontask Turns?
Short Answer: Probably Not (for speed)
Kontext adds latency overhead. The value is in quality and cost, not raw speed.
Current Turn Breakdown
| CLI spin-up | ~6s | Process spawn + auth |
| Context loading | ~2s | CLAUDE.md + history |
| API call (thinking) | 5-30s | Depends on complexity |
| Tool execution | 1-10s | File reads, bash, etc. |
| Kontask creation | ~0.5s | Write to store |
| Total | 15-50s |
What Kontext Would ADD
| Embed query | +100-300ms | Embed the prompt |
| Vector search | +50-100ms | SQLite vec query |
| Context assembly | +50ms | Build prompt |
| Overhead | +200-450ms |
Where It COULD Help
| ✓ Fewer tool calls | Right context upfront = Claude doesn't need to Read/Grep as much |
| ✓ Smaller context | Only relevant chunks vs full files = faster API response |
| ✓ Better cache hits | Consistent context preamble = more prompt caching |
| ✓ Cost savings | Less tokens = lower $ per turn |
Real Speed Wins
If you want faster kontask turns, the biggest wins are:
1. Session pooling - eliminate 6s CLI spin-up (already built for Quick Turn)
2. Prompt caching - consistent context = cheaper + faster API
3. Haiku for exploration - use fast model for file discovery, Opus for output
4. Parallel tool calls - Claude already does this when possible
Bottom Line
Kontext is about smarter context (quality, relevance, cost) not faster turns. For speed, focus on session pooling and prompt caching.
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Details
Type
General
Status
Completed
Scope
vibetools
Tags
kontextperformancelatency
Created
5 Jan 2026, 2:12 pm
Updated
5 Jan 2026, 2:12 pm
Timing
⏱️ 48.0s
1 tools
● TTFE 11%
● Thinking 87%
● Tools 2%
Created By
claude
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"output": "<div style=\"background:#1e1e1e;color:#e0e0e0;padding:20px;border-radius:8px;font-family:sans-serif;\"><h2 style=\"color:#fff;margin:0 0 20px 0;\">Would Kontext Speed Up Kontask Turns?</h2><div style=\"background:#2d2d2d;padding:16px;border-radius:6px;margin-bottom:16px;\"><h3 style=\"margin:0 0 12px 0;color:#f97316;\">Short Answer: Probably Not (for speed)</h3><p style=\"margin:0;color:#9ca3af;line-height:1.6;\">Kontext adds latency overhead. The value is in <strong>quality</strong> and <strong>cost</strong>, not raw speed.</p></div><div style=\"background:#2d2d2d;padding:16px;border-radius:6px;margin-bottom:16px;\"><h3 style=\"margin:0 0 12px 0;color:#61afef;\">Current Turn Breakdown</h3><table style=\"width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;font-size:13px;\"><tr style=\"border-bottom:1px solid #444;\"><td style=\"padding:8px 0;color:#e5c07b;\">CLI spin-up</td><td style=\"text-align:right;color:#9ca3af;\">~6s</td><td style=\"color:#7f848e;padding-left:12px;\">Process spawn + auth</td></tr><tr style=\"border-bottom:1px solid #444;\"><td style=\"padding:8px 0;color:#e5c07b;\">Context loading</td><td style=\"text-align:right;color:#9ca3af;\">~2s</td><td style=\"color:#7f848e;padding-left:12px;\">CLAUDE.md + history</td></tr><tr style=\"border-bottom:1px solid #444;\"><td style=\"padding:8px 0;color:#e5c07b;\">API call (thinking)</td><td style=\"text-align:right;color:#9ca3af;\">5-30s</td><td style=\"color:#7f848e;padding-left:12px;\">Depends on complexity</td></tr><tr style=\"border-bottom:1px solid #444;\"><td style=\"padding:8px 0;color:#e5c07b;\">Tool execution</td><td style=\"text-align:right;color:#9ca3af;\">1-10s</td><td style=\"color:#7f848e;padding-left:12px;\">File reads, bash, etc.</td></tr><tr style=\"border-bottom:1px solid #444;\"><td style=\"padding:8px 0;color:#e5c07b;\">Kontask creation</td><td style=\"text-align:right;color:#9ca3af;\">~0.5s</td><td style=\"color:#7f848e;padding-left:12px;\">Write to store</td></tr><tr style=\"font-weight:bold;border-top:2px solid #61afef;\"><td style=\"padding:12px 0;\">Total</td><td style=\"text-align:right;color:#f97316;\">15-50s</td><td></td></tr></table></div><div style=\"background:#2d2d2d;padding:16px;border-radius:6px;margin-bottom:16px;\"><h3 style=\"margin:0 0 12px 0;color:#e06c75;\">What Kontext Would ADD</h3><table style=\"width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;font-size:13px;\"><tr style=\"border-bottom:1px solid #444;\"><td style=\"padding:8px 0;color:#e5c07b;\">Embed query</td><td style=\"text-align:right;color:#e06c75;\">+100-300ms</td><td style=\"color:#7f848e;padding-left:12px;\">Embed the prompt</td></tr><tr style=\"border-bottom:1px solid #444;\"><td style=\"padding:8px 0;color:#e5c07b;\">Vector search</td><td style=\"text-align:right;color:#e06c75;\">+50-100ms</td><td style=\"color:#7f848e;padding-left:12px;\">SQLite vec query</td></tr><tr style=\"border-bottom:1px solid #444;\"><td style=\"padding:8px 0;color:#e5c07b;\">Context assembly</td><td style=\"text-align:right;color:#e06c75;\">+50ms</td><td style=\"color:#7f848e;padding-left:12px;\">Build prompt</td></tr><tr style=\"font-weight:bold;border-top:2px solid #e06c75;\"><td style=\"padding:12px 0;\">Overhead</td><td style=\"text-align:right;color:#e06c75;\">+200-450ms</td><td></td></tr></table></div><div style=\"background:#2d2d2d;padding:16px;border-radius:6px;margin-bottom:16px;\"><h3 style=\"margin:0 0 12px 0;color:#98c379;\">Where It COULD Help</h3><table style=\"width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;font-size:13px;\"><tr style=\"border-bottom:1px solid #444;\"><td style=\"padding:8px 0;color:#98c379;\">✓ Fewer tool calls</td><td style=\"color:#9ca3af;\">Right context upfront = Claude doesn't need to Read/Grep as much</td></tr><tr style=\"border-bottom:1px solid #444;\"><td style=\"padding:8px 0;color:#98c379;\">✓ Smaller context</td><td style=\"color:#9ca3af;\">Only relevant chunks vs full files = faster API response</td></tr><tr style=\"border-bottom:1px solid #444;\"><td style=\"padding:8px 0;color:#98c379;\">✓ Better cache hits</td><td style=\"color:#9ca3af;\">Consistent context preamble = more prompt caching</td></tr><tr><td style=\"padding:8px 0;color:#98c379;\">✓ Cost savings</td><td style=\"color:#9ca3af;\">Less tokens = lower $ per turn</td></tr></table></div><div style=\"background:#1a2332;border:1px solid #61afef;padding:16px;border-radius:6px;margin-bottom:16px;\"><h4 style=\"margin:0 0 8px 0;color:#61afef;\">Real Speed Wins</h4><p style=\"margin:0;color:#9ca3af;line-height:1.6;\">If you want faster kontask turns, the biggest wins are:<br><br><strong>1. 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